tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post1824564328931016508..comments2024-03-04T06:49:58.529-05:00Comments on The Nerdy Teacher: Dr Nerdy Teacher? #edchatThe Nerdy Teacherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00967718792957188554noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-42221388123681636612012-07-17T11:59:41.431-04:002012-07-17T11:59:41.431-04:00Nick,
You may want to consider getting an Ed.D. I...Nick,<br /><br />You may want to consider getting an Ed.D. In Instructional Leadeship with certification inEducational Leadership. I received mine through Western Connecticut and ther are a few others that offer the same program (Columbia, Botston, College and others). This degree allows for a lot of flexibility. I also loved that my program is a cohort program, it is so nice to have that Dr. Joan McGettiganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06782791607822337402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-10701650646748101132012-07-08T12:45:49.727-04:002012-07-08T12:45:49.727-04:00I'll keep this short :)
I was admitted into a...I'll keep this short :)<br /><br />I was admitted into a PhD program and am still being considered. The more I think about, however, I think of all the liabilities (cost, time, not being able to work, etc) and benefits (the title, the opened doors, the...prestige?) and I've spent lots of time comparing them.<br /><br />This is personal only, but I've chosen not to pursue. The bottomMr. Nielsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09172579694982227561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-22536038521886346042012-07-07T21:34:16.300-04:002012-07-07T21:34:16.300-04:00Hi. I hope I didn’t write too much...
I know the...Hi. I hope I didn’t write too much...<br /><br />I know there are many people posted before me and some of this may be redundant. I went for my Masters in Educational Technology about eight years ago. During interviews afterward, people were curious what it entailed. The program was new in our area at the time. For me, it was a great program that solidified what I already was teaching/doing as aKChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02394964990132183402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-51454129392365704602012-07-06T22:13:11.396-04:002012-07-06T22:13:11.396-04:00Here are a couple more cents (soon you'll have...Here are a couple more cents (soon you'll have enough to pay for something you want to pursue!)... I used to want the title of "Dr.," when my maiden name was perfect for it, and there were three other Dr. Powers(es) in my large family (two were MDs, though!), but then I got married, and it sounded a bit like Dr. Kevorkian... Didn't want they. So I went for my National Board Joy Kirrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08883167887036480979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-87673921035916646612012-07-06T20:04:01.098-04:002012-07-06T20:04:01.098-04:00I find it extremely fustrating that the education ...I find it extremely fustrating that the education system is so caught up in degrees only and not actual knowledge. I have met a lot of good instructional technologists who do NOT have a degree in edtech and I have met an equal amount of poor instructional technologists with degrees, EdD included. <br /><br />While you may need to get the degree to actually get the job it really doesn't Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18360578710436604576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-62162104355565516922012-07-06T18:53:27.095-04:002012-07-06T18:53:27.095-04:00I'm going to throw some more options in your c...I'm going to throw some more options in your court. As John wrote, it's inspiring to see you want to continue to grow and walk the walk we teach our students to reach for everyday.<br /><br />Here's some other things you could do that's related to education and could still tap into your expertise:<br /><br />:: Consulting - I'm saying it. So many ed startups and ed orgs need misselanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11915982296089026857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-36133122037784347972012-07-06T17:36:17.908-04:002012-07-06T17:36:17.908-04:00I went through this same dilemma five years ago. ...I went through this same dilemma five years ago. I asked an administrator I respected why she decided to get her doctorate. She told me that I could spend the rest of my career screaming at the top of my lungs, but it will only sound like a dull whisper to those making the decisions until I have that Dr. in front of my name.<br /><br />My Ph.D. in curriculum development with ed tech emphasis What is peculiar pedagogy?https://www.blogger.com/profile/08968449621145884889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-79097796488714449822012-07-06T17:09:57.666-04:002012-07-06T17:09:57.666-04:00I've been thinking about a doctorate in ed tec...I've been thinking about a doctorate in ed tech for a while. I'm on the same page as you--it's expensive and time consuming. I also have no desire to be an admin. <br /><br /> I teach at two colleges, and would love to do that full-time, but I don't have the PhD. So at this point, I'm trying to present as much as I can. It's enjoyable, I'm meeting amazing teachers, andBillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04176975784808949890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-46702104240008768352012-07-06T16:04:40.318-04:002012-07-06T16:04:40.318-04:00Everyone has made really good points to ponder bef...Everyone has made really good points to ponder before you jump into what is an investment of time, energy, and money that comes pursuing a post-graduate degree.<br /><br />I think a way to do more research on the type of degree you should work towards, take a look at job descriptions of jobs in (and out) of your district you are interested in. Look at the required degrees and experience. A lot ofCristin Dillardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12566913351773585609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-62507312740402066412012-07-06T14:59:21.386-04:002012-07-06T14:59:21.386-04:00I agree with what others have said about the decis...I agree with what others have said about the decision somewhat depends on what you want to do. I started as a classroom teacher, and I began working on an MA in Instructional Technology because I loved integrating technology in my classroom. I ended up with a job for my district as an Instructional Technology Facilitator before I finished that degree, not because of the degree but because of whatAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12087568005011693901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-37156748675882493572012-07-06T12:45:14.234-04:002012-07-06T12:45:14.234-04:00Great post, and great questions.
I’ll throw in m...Great post, and great questions. <br /><br />I’ll throw in my 2 cents here – I have been an educator for 11 years, and this is my 5th as an assistant principal as well. After receiving a Master’s in education a while back, I recently started an Ed.D (Doctoral) program in educational leadership. <br /><br />As you have demonstrated by your online posts, you clearly ‘get it’ when it comes to Dovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17086080881331996478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-48177050013097073972012-07-06T12:30:54.882-04:002012-07-06T12:30:54.882-04:00Hi Nick,
I commend you for your willingness to ke...Hi Nick,<br /><br />I commend you for your willingness to keep growing and for honestly reflecting on your professional growth. I'll offer my views, but echo what so many have said, that everything rests on where you want to be in 5 to 10 years. <br /><br />If your goal is to work in an administrative capacity, I'd encourage you to think about an Ed. Specialist program at Wayne State or Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-60921460871658876862012-07-06T12:13:21.447-04:002012-07-06T12:13:21.447-04:00It is interesting because I have struggled with so...It is interesting because I have struggled with some form of that question for the past 20 years. When I got into education I told myself I would be an administrator by year 10. I just finished my 21st year IN THE CLASSROOM! But EVERY year I grapple with your same questions. It always comes down my heart and where it tells me I belong in education. <br /><br />I became a "teacher Kristen Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03517864993491472673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-68430444680436880002012-07-06T12:10:00.404-04:002012-07-06T12:10:00.404-04:00I finished up my specialist online at Mizzou in Ed...I finished up my specialist online at Mizzou in Educational Technology and really felt like I learned a great deal. So, I decided to go for my Ed. D. It's not about the title at all. I don't have an admin degree either and still won't even when I finish my doctorate this fall. People tell me it's crazy and that there is "no place to go in schools without an admin degree.&Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17346607795873233870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-16653221951661916512012-07-06T12:03:36.655-04:002012-07-06T12:03:36.655-04:00I am actually thinking of getting my second master...I am actually thinking of getting my second masters in Instructional Technology. My district does not support technology, so I am wondering if it is worth the time and money to get another masters. There is a push for me to go into administration, but I do not see how that would help me be a better educator.I have no interest of being out of the classroom. I do see that it would make you more kelalfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14980518728186450241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-20120471351819385462012-07-06T12:00:27.576-04:002012-07-06T12:00:27.576-04:00I am about half way through my M. Ed. in EDTC and ...I am about half way through my M. Ed. in EDTC and probably should not be thinking about the Ed. D. program but sometimes I can not help it. While I don't have any advice to offer, this conversation has lead to two questions in my mind: <br /><br />1) Does a Ed.D (specialization in EDTC) still qualify you for teaching at a university some day, or do they prefer Ph D.? (wasn't sure if Ed. DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-19404141983287545612012-07-06T11:36:51.741-04:002012-07-06T11:36:51.741-04:00I thought my original post went through, but I don...I thought my original post went through, but I don't see it, so if you get two, I apologize…<br /><br />As already has been said - will a PhD lead you to the job that you are looking for? Great credentials, but here in Canada, most PhD's end up being academics in the University systems…which is great - especially if you'd like to do research and/or teach teachers.<br /><br />I had Lisa Kosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03996963934645789946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-54885616698493793192012-07-06T11:26:15.120-04:002012-07-06T11:26:15.120-04:00I struggle a lot with similar thoughts. I just fin...I struggle a lot with similar thoughts. I just finished my M.Ed. in Ed Tech Leadership and I'm not sure where to go from here. The idea of a Ph.D. or Ed.D. program appeals to me very much, but I'm not sure that it's going to get us what we're after. Like you, I love the district where I work, but I worry that I'm never going to be able to push us enough to become a forward Librarian Tiffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07984105315792807266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-19548901400510860892012-07-06T11:21:10.982-04:002012-07-06T11:21:10.982-04:00You've asked for thoughts, and I think thought...You've asked for thoughts, and I think thoughts are always best when shared, so here are mine.<br /><br />What do you want to do, career-wise? While the degree offered at Kentucky sounds amazing, are there jobs out there that will allow you to effectively use that degree at a school or district level? Obviously, you've done a lot more research into this than I have, but it's the firstAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-59589036150915576152012-07-06T11:16:00.866-04:002012-07-06T11:16:00.866-04:00If you work on learning about leadership, you don&...If you work on learning about leadership, you don't just forget about the technology skills you have. I know that you are aware of many admin with both technology and leadership skills.<br /><br />The thing that is so important to remember in whatever initiative you are trying to move forward is that you are working with people first. I am not sure what different programs are like with George Couroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04253972152649235179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-26268437697596970932012-07-06T11:14:26.629-04:002012-07-06T11:14:26.629-04:00Wow, This post was like you were reading my mind! ...Wow, This post was like you were reading my mind! I just started an Ed tech grad program and see so much potential for instructing other teachers in instructional technology. Like you mentioned, the advancement in the district often will only happen with an admin certificate which limits great teachers becoming instructors for colleagues. My hope is that districts will realize the power of the Melanie Broxtermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10032567083898440857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7005114591173102634.post-43214102482097819972012-07-06T11:08:35.265-04:002012-07-06T11:08:35.265-04:00"The Nerdy Administrator" doesn't so..."The Nerdy Administrator" doesn't sound that bad :-) I've found I have more influence over the classroom as an administrator than as a teacher. I look at it this way, the teachers are the ground troops, the admins are the officers. The ground troops can win any battle, but to win the war you need good officers. A PhD opens up a lot of administrative opportunities.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10868997970678494296noreply@blogger.com